[music] KATH elcome to BioBalance Healthcast. I’m Dr. Kathy Maupin. BRET nd I’m Brett Newcomb. And today our program is occurring in response to a broadcast that Kathy actually did on a local TV station with Christine Buck in which they were discussing skin care treatments and skin care issues. And I think it’s relevant because most people who know about Kathy know about Kathy because of her work in hormone replacement. But she is actually the Medical Director of a company that produces skin care products and she’s done a lot of research and knows a lot of science about different treatment strategies and issues regarding skin care. Today we’re going to focus on just one part of what she knows; treatments for dry skin. KATH nd, it’s winter and it’s what we all have to come up against if we’re past the acne stage usually we have to deal with it. BRET certainly am. KATH ea, anybody after 40 will generally have to deal with dry skin in the winter time because the humidity goes down when the temperature goes down outside and then we turn the heat on and then we’re dried out all day long we can’t drink enough water. BRET ur homes are sealed so tightly and then the furnaces run and they dry the moisture out of the air and so then that does affect the condition of our skin. KATH have a vaporizer by my bed at night so my skin doesn’t get totally dried out through the night. Moisturizers are awesome but they don’t have the ability to counteract all of the drying. BRET o because you have nasal issues from too much dryness. But for the surface of the skin in these conditions, especially these times of the year when the weather conditions cause us to stay in more and there’s so much dry heat, what do you recommend for people that have dry skin problems anyway? KATH think you always should have a routine. That’s kind of a given with skin care you should always perform the routine day and night even if you fall asleep on the couch you should get up before you go to bed. Wash your face with a creamy kind of face wash. Because if you use anything other than that, anything other than a face wash that is for dry skin, then you’re going to be putting alcohol on your face and drying it out more and that’s something that you just don’t want to do. It makes it much more difficult to come back from that no matter what moisturizer you use. BRET hat’s adding insult to injury. If you use an alcohol based wash. KATH es, if you have normal skin and you have alcohol in your wash and you move to winter and you have dry skin, you have to change your face wash. It has to be something that actually keeps the moisture in your skin but takes the dirt off. It gets rid of any debris that is on your face, any dead cells. BRET o you’re focusing on washing your face as a routine behavior in preparation for going to bed at night or getting up in the morning. But do you have the same concerns about taking a bath or a shower. Do you have to use a product different from what you do for the face? KATH oisturizing soap is always helpful in the shower for your body. BRET o they do make those? KATH don’t make those. BRET o we won’t talk about that. KATH o but Oil of Olay creamy winter formula. Those kind of things for the rest of your body are always a good idea so you don’t get dried out all over. I have some other ideas that we’ll deal with at the very end. But after washing your face, I never understood what a toner was for until I started working with the medical director at Helena Andre, as the medical director. And I thought “oh yea, it makes your skin feel good.” But if you look at the cotton pad that you use, after you’ve washed your face and you look at that, it’s dark, it has more dirt on it. So you’ve opened the pores and you’ve cleaned off all of the dead skin and the dirt that was a little too deep for just the face wash. So it preps your skin for the other treatments that you may need to put on your skin after that. BRET ou can see me thinking. KATH see you thinking, I can almost hear your thinking. BRET o what about women who put on makeup. I can hear what you are saying about a guy who doesn’t do a lot of those kinds of things and he needs to clean his face and he needs a certain kind of wash for dry skin. But do guys need toner too? Or is this more just for what women need because they slather on different kinds of stuff? KATH o. If you wore no makeup at all, I don’t wear foundation ever and I still need it because the environmental pollution has all kinds of stuff. BRET o this is not just a makeup cleansing routine at the end of the night? KATH o. You don’t even have to wear make up in order to do this. This is just to keep your skin healthy. It’s like people wash their hair. You have to keep your face washed more often. BRET o It’s about health not cosmetics. KATH t’s about both. Because when you’re healthy you’re beautiful. And when your skin’s healthy you’re beautiful. BRET ice segway. Okay. KATH t is. So we use the toner to prep the skin and if you don’t have any other issues if, you don’t want to use any other help for your skin. The next thing you would do is to put a moisturizer on. And interestingly enough moisturizers are not meant to go into your skin and moisturize. They are meant to put a mask over your skin so that all the moisture you produce in your skin at night is held in, or during the day. And it does protect you from the external sun and all of the other particles in the air. It does protect your skin from that. But most of what moisturizers are doing is holding your own moisture in, which means you have to drink a lot of water. So you should always be hydrated. BRET ou have to generate the moisture to be hydrated. KATH f you’re dehydrated no moisturizer is going to condition your skin and make it look beautiful. So you have to drink the water. BRET o it’s kind of like polyurethane you put a coating on the skin that exists but the skin that exists is what you have. KATH r like Vaseline or something like that. Most of us don’t want to have Vaseline gooey stuff all over our pillows. And honestly that wouldn’t work badly but I have a great collagen cream that works awesome and when you take it off your skin is really soft, and really moist and then you just put on a different moisturizer, revitalizing cream, for the day. BRET hen I was a kid my mom used to put this stuff on her face at night that looked nightmarish. KATH onds Cold Cr?me. BRET onds Cold Cr?me that’s what it was or Oil of Olay or something. KATH hat’s all we had. Ponds Cold cC?me oroil of Olay. BRET nd that was for moisturizing? Well I didn’t know. I just thought it was pretty horrific with those big rollers. KATH think we’ve progressed, I hope, from that. But you know the Ponds Cold Cr?me was a great sealer for moisture, but we hadn’t even talked about this but do you know why Oil of Olay, our mothers all used it? BRET o. KATH ecause in the beginning, Oil of Olay it had estrogen in it. And it made our skin look better. Estrogen inside, whether you take it my pellets or patch or whatever works to make your skin softer and clearer, but also applying estrogen to your face does that. But it wasn’t considered a drug issue then and so they had to take it out. And we still use Oil of Olay it still is a good product without it. But it was a miraculous product with it. And I offer some estrodial, estriol powder to put into moisturizers. That actually does penetrate into the skin and then does help heal the skin and make it look younger, less of the little marks and crinkles, smile crinkles. So it did work. It’s now a drug so we can’t do that anymore. But that’s why everybody loves Oil of Olay even now. BRET ow, I did not know that. KATH o if that’s all you need then those three steps are all you need. But most of us need eye gel and have some eye gel morning and night. But before you go to sleep it’s very important that we use a different product on the skin around the eye. Because it’s thinner. It’s a different type of skin. So you have to use a different eye makeup remover or eye cleanser and we have one that has the same pH as tears. So it doesn’t irritate, it’s very hypoallergenic. That’s for cleaning your eyes. For keeping your eyes healthy, without circles, without puffiness, you need to have a good eye gel and that requires that your eye gel, you should look at your contents in your eye gel, has Vitamin K for the circles to stop the dark circles, and it has Arnica to stop the puffiness. Those two ingredients are essential to decreasing the circles around your eyes. BRET o how does it stop the puffiness? Does it dry? KATH t dries but not in the way, there are other things that are much cheaper than arnica to use to dry it, arnica basically doesn’t dehydrate and take the water it. It basically moves the lymph. It takes the lymph fluid out from around your eye and mobilizes that. We use it in our cellulite serum as well. So it’s very good at moving fluid that’s right under the skin and your lymph vasculature is right under the skin. BRET kay so I have to ask this because I don’t know. No because I’m being stupid. KATH ecause you want to stump me. BRET o, is this something that you recommend for men as well as for women? Because I tend to think of these products and I suspect that many men do in terms of things women need to do so that they look beautiful and all of that. And men don’t worry about that quite as much. But it’s not just about looking beautiful. It’s about being healthy and looking better because you are healthy. And so you would recommend that men follow these protocols as well?1 KATH es I do. BRET nd do you find a lot of men do?1 KATH o, not a lot actually. I have a men’s line that has the three basic products1 for men’s skin. But they usually don’t put moisturizer on and in general they should.1 And toner, they don’t even understand what toner’s for. But after shave lotion is kind1 of like toner. SO people who shave kind of get the dead skin off with that. But it’s1 not ideal. But shaving makes men’s faces look better because you’re exfoliating.1 Every time you shave you’re taking off dead skin.1 BRET ith a razor blade. Here scrape that off.1 KATH eally but it’s not supposed to hit the skin but you’re just barely hitting1 the dead skin which is on top. So that’s not a bad exfoliator. That’s one of the1 reasons why men look better longer and they have testosterone longer.1 BRET nd some of the shaving creams are marketed as moisturizing shaving creams.1 KATH ight, that’s right. And women steal them to use on our legs. There are a1 couple of other products that might help you if you have dry skin. And one of them is Vitamin1 C Serum. And I like to put as many active ingredients in one product as I can. So this1 is something that goes into your skin, it is actually absorbed into your skin. And if1 you put a lot of active ingredients in something you don’t have to buy three or four products1 for putting it on after the toner before the moisturizer. So this is the stage in between1 if you have special problems, if you have wrinkles, if you have brown spots. If you1 just have kind of dry dull skin, then the Vitamin C is what you need to put on in between1 the toner and the moisturizer. And then the moisturizer holds it in on your skin which1 is awfully of nice. So it actually heals the skin and Vitamin C heals us when we take it1 orally as well. But on your skin it works beautifully. Now we can get to the body.1 BRET efore we do that. I had one other question that just occurred to me. What about1 smoking? If you have dry skin and you smoke are you not like tanning your skin over the1 ears? Does this affect that or help that? KATH know you tan your fingers, they1 usually turn colors. And generally, smoking is just so bad because it makes you hypoxic.1 The last thing you need is no oxygen to your skin. It’s just a set up for having wrinkles1 and bad skin your whole life, because you’re not able to heal as fast when you smoke, you’re1 not able to regenerate dead skin, and it takes all of the moisture out of your skin. Most1 smokers have really bad lines over their lips and then they have really deep wrinkles, and1 kind of a thicker more tan skin. I mean just a thicker skin that doesn’t look good.1 BRET anned in a sense of leather tan not in the sense of sun tanning.1 KATH es, not sun tanning. But in any case that’s usually what heavy smokers have1 to deal with. They need to stop smoking. BRET wasn’t intending to go there.1 KATH f you do all these things and you still smoke, I mean really, that seems kind1 of ridiculous to me. BRET ind of putting out a house fire1 with a Dixie cup. KATH hat’s kind of true. So that’s1 kind of a given in my world that smoking is going to complicate everything and make you1 look older and I’m trying to make me people look and feel younger and be healthier.1 BRET lright well let’s move, sorry I digressed.1 KATH e’ve already talked about body care. But body care requires both cleansing,1 and not cleansing too often. We all take showers once a day but every time you take a shower1 you remove oil from your skin and you need oil on your skin to get through your day.1 So if you’re taking a shower every day you need to replenish your skin with a moisturizer1 that will actually protect your skin and give it some of the oil back. So we have a.1 BRET nd again my wife does that every day, I never do. I think it’s a male/female1 thing. KATH en have more oil in general, even1 when they have dry skin. And it may be you have more oil in your skin you don’t notice1 it flaking off and getting dry. But we don’t have as much oil in our skin ever as you guys1 and once we get past menopause then it’s worse. And so it’s visible. So you may have1 something in going on with your elbows, your knees. Now that’s usually built up dry skin1 and doing this whole process will help with that. I have a body conditioner but it also1 helps exfoliate dead skin. So you put that all over. I even have some women that put1 it on your heals because it exfoliates the dead skin on their feet. It is really a very1 good way to keep moisture in and exfoliate dead skin cells off.1 BRET o message ladies is if your husband leaves little piles of dead skin when he walks1 across the bathroom floor make sure you get him to use a moisturizer.1 KATH nd if you really want to know what a toner does, then clean someone else’s1 back with a toner. Even though maybe they step right out of the shower you will get1 so much dark dead skin off their back because that’s some place we can’t scrub.1 BRET nd the force of the water in the shower just won’t really remove it.1 KATH ut you’re using soap, that’s not what’s going to get all those dead skin1 cells off. So the toner is very useful for that too.1 BRET o these are recommendations for the treatment of dry skin. There are other1 issues that are involved with oily skin and intermediate skin. And Kathy has a broader1 range of products for other things as well that are a result of this side interest and1 expertise of hers. So in upcoming podcasts we may be talking about some of those as well.1 If you have questions about skin care concerns you can contact Kathy directly.1 KATH t BioBalanceHealth.com or you can send an email to podcast@bioblancehealth.com.1 Or you can call the office at 314.993.0963. BRET nd you can always reach me at brettnewcomb.com.1 [music]1 Copyright ? 2011 BioBalance Health | St. Louis, MO 63141 • 314.993.09631 Produced by Davis Interactive.